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Hearth & Sky's avatar

Agreed.

Why can’t we both:

1. Strongly disagree with Steven’s careless use of his words and agree he needs to do better going forward, recognizing a sincere error in contrast to malice

AND

2. Strongly disagree with gleefully destroying someone’s life and legacy over one ignorant (not malicious) fuck up?

In psychology, splitting is symptomatic of pathology. Dialectical thinking is healthy. More of that, please.

Witnessing the extreme mischaracterization, vitriol, and cruelty towards Steven and anyone who is saying, “Hold on. This seems wrong. How can we handle this better?” Has only pushed more astrologers away from any desire to participate in the so-called astrological community. Because if someone who has devoted over 50 years of their life to good astrological work and service can be torn to shreds like this over one error, it’s not really a community. That’s a cult. Or at the very least, an echo chamber. If Steven Forrest can be swallowed up by it, so can anyone, no matter how long you contribute to the field and no matter how many people you help. One step outside of what is deemed morally pure on any given day and it’s off with your head. Who would sign up to participate in that? Count me out. Many are conforming because of fear that they will be on the chopping block next if they don’t. Time to grow a spine.

Cathy Pagano's avatar

Definitely right about the community’s reactions. I wonder if it’s because they’re still operating under a ‘patriarchal’ feminine understanding of community. We are all fathers daughters - our feminine consciousness is subjugated to masc ideals. So we shame and oust thinking it protects the community.

A wild and free feminine might say there’s a different way to handle this. He’s brought up an issue that needs addressing collectively. How can astrologers address this for the good of our clients.

Also Divine Harmony has a point in her response. She addressed the shadow work the guys are teaching. As a trained Jungian, people have big misunderstandings about what the shadow is and how to work with it. It’s misunderstood and needs to be experienced and worked through. Not tossed in the fire.

This is our collective shadow.

Thanks for another interesting essay.

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